Thursday, September 21, 2006

The Giants Sometimes Get Things Wrong, Too

Given David Buschur's standing in the US Evo forums, he's pretty much untouchable. It's impossible to hold a meaningful discussion there because his words carry a lot of weight and the fanboys are just going to jump in and start a slagging match.

My personal observation in the past is that if you put a GT3582 turbo on a car it is going to make XX power, depending on the parts combinations the car has on it. The absolute highest WHP I have seen from a GT35R is Curt Brown's car. It made right at 650 whp here on our dyno at 40 psi of boost. The turbo kit is an AMS GT35R kit. Now you need to understand that Curt's car has every single part you can imagine on it, everything has been lightened as light as it can go, wheels, tires, clutch, flywheel, brakes etc. This all helps to increase the power levels. Not taking anything away from it, just making a point that all of the power isn't from the difference in the turbo kit. I have dyno'd other AMS kits that made what I would expect, Curt, his car and his driving are all FREAKS!! haha

My personal RS with 17" SSR wheels, Neova tires, stock sized brakes front and rear, e-brake still instact, Exedy Clutch (20 pounds heavier than a Tilton) stock intake manifold and throttle body made 572 whp at 38 psi of boost. There more power to be had and I think I could have hit 600 whp with it. No telling how much power I'd gain if I took 20 pounds off the flywheel, put lightweight brakes etc on the car. Not sure that the sheetmetal intakes and 3" throttle bodies would pick up anything substantial or not. But these are all differences that need to be said.


Original thread here.

I don't see how you can gain power by lightening the vehicle. Can you?

This is not a bash. I feel DB makes some pretty good products, and is overall a straight up dude. But some things he says, just don't make sense at all. So... the point of this post is to remind everyone that even the greats are fallible. Be on your guard. Always.

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

All the components he lists are rotating masses. He's referring to transient power as measured on inertia dynos. Even on load dynos whether eddy or water brake, different sweep rates (even though a series of steps) measure different power.

Anonymous said...

It is measured power, but power that also has to do with transients in actual operation. So it is power in a way, although not power in the purer and more common definition (made in the cylinder).