Big project? Conversations with a Haltech tuner

11:19:28 AM haltech tuner: yo u got my msn msg yesterday?
11:19:53 AM me: what about?
11:24:26 AM haltech tuner: the fic injectors
11:24:33 AM haltech tuner: which bk using
11:24:50 AM haltech tuner: do u know the lagtime, voltage, ohms?
11:26:16 AM me: nope
11:26:21 AM me: just plug in some generic values
11:26:25 AM me: the ECU handles the rest
11:27:44 AM haltech tuner: generic?
11:27:48 AM haltech tuner: what abt dead band?
11:27:53 AM me: doesn't matter
11:27:57 AM haltech tuner: hmmm
11:28:04 AM haltech tuner: what do u have to key in for motec?
11:28:21 AM me: nothing at all, just set the resistance to 16 ohms that's it
11:28:26 AM me: same as stock
11:28:33 AM haltech tuner: i see
11:28:38 AM haltech tuner: operation voltage?
11:28:43 AM haltech tuner: do u know for stock?
11:29:35 AM me: no clue
11:30:01 AM haltech tuner: ok
11:30:12 AM haltech tuner: motec calculates the lagtime and voltage?
11:30:30 AM me: automatic
11:34:54 AM haltech tuner: does it show after it calculates?
11:34:57 AM haltech tuner: as in show teh values?
11:38:52 AM me: nope
11:42:37 AM haltech tuner: k
11:42:37 AM haltech tuner: thks

4:41:36 PM me: u there?
4:43:00 PM haltech tuner: yup
4:43:23 PM me: i have no idea what u just sent me
4:45:37 PM haltech tuner: i mean injectors
4:45:41 PM haltech tuner: not pump
4:45:45 PM haltech tuner: impedance. voltage
4:46:04 PM me: impedance is resistance, not voltage. what's the question?
4:46:34 PM haltech tuner: both
4:46:41 PM haltech tuner: i need to key in voltage for haltech
4:46:56 PM haltech tuner: someone told me to use lag time to calculate voltage
4:47:16 PM me: i dunno man... u bought it from sam? ask him lah
4:47:30 PM haltech tuner: he doesnt know
4:48:25 PM me: can't u just use a generic number
4:48:34 PM me: like for a similar 950cc
4:48:36 PM me: what they're usign
4:49:10 PM haltech tuner: no
4:49:50 PM haltech tuner: it prompts for staged injectors mode: primary hold or common
4:49:54 PM haltech tuner: staging bar
4:49:54 PM haltech tuner: peak/hold voltage
4:51:26 PM haltech tuner: choice of peak/hold is a. 2amp/0.5 b. 3amp/0.8 c. 5 amp/1.2 d. 8 amp/sat
4:58:25 PM me: check your manual what does it advise

5:02:17 PM haltech tuner: it doesnt say
5:02:19 PM haltech tuner: it depends on yr injectors
5:06:33 PM me: so mah fun
5:07:59 PM haltech tuner: kekeke
5:08:00 PM haltech tuner: so i need fic info
5:08:07 PM haltech tuner: tot u did bk's car
5:08:11 PM me: can't help u there really
5:08:11 PM haltech tuner: so i tot u know
5:08:16 PM me: cos i don't need to know
5:08:23 PM me: it just sets amp = 0
5:08:32 PM me: everything else handled by software
5:08:34 PM haltech tuner: like power fc also need to key in lagtime
5:08:48 PM haltech tuner: amp=0??
5:08:51 PM me: yep
5:08:53 PM haltech tuner: how is that possible?
5:08:54 PM me: that's what it says
5:09:06 PM me: Note: For 12 and 16 ohm injectors the current should be set to 0
5:09:12 PM me: set it to 0 lor
5:09:18 PM me: end of story
5:10:18 PM haltech tuner: hmmm

The next day....

1:23:41 PM haltech tuner: are our ignitors smart or dumb?
1:24:31 PM haltech tuner: constant duty or constant charge?
1:24:48 PM me: dunno man
1:24:53 PM me: why so cheem
1:30:17 PM haltech tuner: tryin to check something
1:31:09 PM haltech tuner: in motec u use ignition dwell time and ignition delay time
1:31:13 PM haltech tuner: what u set for our cars?
1:32:46 PM haltech tuner: for sensor setup u use hall effects for our trigger?
1:34:55 PM me: hahaha
1:34:58 PM me: oei u testing me ah?
1:35:06 PM haltech tuner: no la
1:35:09 PM haltech tuner: i asking u
1:35:10 PM me: then?
1:35:12 PM haltech tuner: cos i not sure
1:35:27 PM haltech tuner: i am running a check thru
1:35:31 PM haltech tuner: can share?
1:35:37 PM me: u can compare with your old files mah
1:35:42 PM me: otherwise how your car start?
1:35:47 PM haltech tuner: can
1:35:56 PM haltech tuner: but just to be sure kekeke
1:36:17 PM haltech tuner: so what u put for ignition dwell time and ignition delay time
1:36:29 PM haltech tuner: delay time = charge time?
1:36:40 PM me: should be
1:36:44 PM me: it's different terminology for motec
1:36:52 PM me: anyway it's all handled by the software i dun have to bother with it
1:37:08 PM haltech tuner: i know
1:37:19 PM haltech tuner: but just asking what values your motec show
1:37:51 PM me: what's there to check? if it's correct, it works liao mah
1:38:19 PM me: so whatever values u have, just keep them
1:38:26 PM me: no point comparing here and there
1:38:30 PM haltech tuner: can work even if you change
1:38:39 PM haltech tuner: matter of efficiency eg for charge time
1:39:12 PM haltech tuner: but if it is trade secrets then its ok i undersatnd
1:39:13 PM me: what difference does it make? can it be measured?
1:39:26 PM haltech tuner: it can be set
1:39:30 PM me: i know it can be set
1:39:31 PM haltech tuner: so i guess it can be measured
1:39:34 PM me: but can it be measured?
1:39:35 PM me: how?
1:39:42 PM me: what is considered "good" vs "bad"?
1:39:48 PM haltech tuner: need high tech equipment i guess kekeke
1:40:01 PM haltech tuner: so just checking what is motec's recomended figures
1:40:28 PM me: there are no "recommended" motec figures
1:40:49 PM haltech tuner: do u know if u using hall effects
1:40:59 PM haltech tuner: or reluctor
1:41:05 PM me: none of the above
1:41:28 PM haltech tuner: in motec u use either hall, magnetic or logic
1:41:35 PM haltech tuner: under sensor setup
1:42:01 PM me: haha u seem to know the motec software better than me
1:42:08 PM me: do u see any "recommended" numbers? no right?
1:42:27 PM haltech tuner: that one is not numbers
1:42:31 PM haltech tuner: ut sensor type
1:42:33 PM haltech tuner: but
1:42:50 PM haltech tuner: which one is yrs set at?
1:43:08 PM haltech tuner: u can see once u plug in ma
1:44:04 PM me: it doesn't matter because mitsu is using a different trigger setup
1:44:50 PM haltech tuner: what does it show under sensor setup then
1:45:01 PM me: like i said, it doesn't matter. pick any.
1:45:02 PM haltech tuner: REF sensor type
1:45:08 PM haltech tuner: huh
1:45:09 PM haltech tuner: any?
1:45:11 PM me: yep
1:45:21 PM haltech tuner: but they r different
1:45:31 PM haltech tuner: all can work?
1:45:31 PM me: u ask me, i tell u oredi
1:45:38 PM me: what else u want me to do?
1:46:03 PM haltech tuner: kekeke
1:46:10 PM haltech tunerme: sorry dun understand so ask

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